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Sep 13 • 7 min read

Why Edu-Tainer is two distinct businesses


When I first created the Edu-Tainer business model, it described creators who monetized their audience, either directly through subscriptions or indirectly through sponsorships, advertising, or keynote speaking.

But in practice, there are two different Expertise Paths hiding under the Edu-Tainer label: The Keynoter and the Media Brand.

Both models tend to lead to large audiences. And both have something else unusual in common: you often deliver the product before you get paid.

The speaker gives the talk that generates the next speaking engagement. The media brand publishes the article, episode, or video that generates the attention it will eventually monetize.

But what each model requires across the Five Foundations is too different to keep treating them as one.

The Keynoter: sold backwards

The Keynoter business model predominantly gets paid to speak.

That doesn’t mean speaking is the Keynoter’s only source of revenue. Many professional speakers also sell books, services, courses, or subscriptions. The distinction is what drives the business: the economic engine is public speaking, whether that means breakout sessions, corporate events, workshops, or actual keynote stages.

Plenty of experts in other business models speak, too. A consultant or coach might give a conference talk that generates leads, and might even get paid for the talk. But speaking is functioning as a marketing channel for another business model.

For the Keynoter, speaking is the business.

And that creates a fundamentally different go-to-market motion.

In most expertise businesses, you can find someone with a problem, offer to solve it, and—assuming the need and urgency are sufficient—they can buy what you have to sell.

The Keynoter has a different constraint: the driving force is often a public speaking event.

No event? No gig.

You aren’t simply waiting for a problem to emerge that you can solve. You’re often waiting for an organization to decide to hold a sales kickoff in March, an association to schedule its annual conference in October, or a leadership team to organize an offsite.

And there’s a second unusual characteristic. To quote my colleague Jay Acunzo, speaking is sold backwards.

Keynotes operate on an inverted commercial model compared to other things you’ve sold before. In other words, keynotes are sold backwards. In other cases, you invest in all your marketing and selling, then deliver the full offering after someone buys it or hires you. But with speaking, your stage-side leads are sitting in the room today, watching you deliver your entire speaking product first, then they decide to buy it.
That means your signature talk is not just your product offering on stages. It’s your best sales tool. It’s your revenue engine. Invest where the revenue comes from: in keynote speaking, not your marketing and selling online or through cold pitches, but the talk itself.

The primary sales motion isn’t get exposure, grow an email list, and repeatedly sell to that list.

It’s build relationships, get on stages, deliver an exceptional product, and turn those stages into more stages.

And once an opportunity emerges, the sale itself often looks more like B2B consulting than a typical creator sale. Sure, someone could theoretically click a button and book a speech. In practice, Keynoters are often scoping and negotiating highly customized deals: event size and format, talk customization, usage and recording rights, additional promotional appearances, event attendance, book buys, workshops, and travel arrangements.

The Keynoter is making a relatively small number of high-value, negotiated sales similar to a premium Delivery model.

The Media Brand: three revenue engines in one

You have a YouTube channel, newsletter, publication, podcast, or other media property—and you want the media itself to make money.

Like the Keynoter, the product is also one of the primary sales tools.

You do the editorial work first: research the episode, do the interview, write the articles. And if the media itself isn’t good enough to earn and retain attention, no amount of funnel optimization is going to save the business.

But the Media Brand can contain three very different revenue engines inside the same business.

Subscribers

The subscriber engine looks a lot like a membership or community business.

First, acquire an audience, whether organically, through collaborations, social media, recommendations, or paid acquisition. Convert some of that audience into free subscribers. Then convert some percentage of those subscribers into paying subscribers. Then retain those paying subscribers over time, because churn is as fundamental to the economics as acquisition.

The customer is the audience member, paying for the media product itself or for additional access and benefits surrounding it.

That creates an entire subscriber funnel to optimize: acquisition, onboarding and welcome sequences, free-to-paid conversion campaigns, renewal management, retention, and subscriber benefits.

Sponsors

Sponsorship is a completely different sales motion.

Now the audience member consuming your work isn’t necessarily the customer.

The sponsor is.

The sales process starts to resemble the Keynoter or another premium Delivery model far more than it resembles selling subscriptions. You’re negotiating a brand partnership: campaign goals, usage rights, number and type of placements, webinars or other activations, exclusivity, creative requirements, and reporting.

And afterward, you’re often demonstrating whether the sponsor got the return they were seeking.

You don’t necessarily need an enormous audience for this model. A sponsor may happily pay a premium to reach a smaller, highly vetted audience containing exactly the people they want to reach.

Advertisers

And then there’s advertising.

With programmatic advertising, AdSense, ad networks, and other impression- or view-based models, you are much closer to literally monetizing attention.

More views, listens, opens, or impressions create more inventory to monetize.

The economics become heavily dependent on audience size, publishing frequency, consumption, and advertising rates.

So the Media Brand isn’t just an editorial operation with a monetization strategy attached.

It can contain three distinct commercial engines simultaneously:

  • selling the media product to the audience through subscriptions
  • selling access to the audience through sponsorships
  • monetizing the audience’s attention through advertising

All three require an audience.

But they make money from that audience in fundamentally different ways.

Why “Edu-Tainer” is no longer one business model

From the outside, a Keynoter and a Media Brand can look remarkably similar.

Both might have a newsletter, a podcast, and a large social following. Both invest heavily in developing ideas and creating intellectual property. Both might spend enormous amounts of time creating things before anyone pays them.

But underneath all that visibility, they’re building different businesses.

And you can see the difference when you look at what each business requires across the Five Foundations.

For the Keynoter:

  • Business Design has to create viable economics around a relatively small number of high-value speaking engagements.
  • Relationship Rhythms has to build and maintain relationships with event organizers, speaker bureaus, past buyers, referral partners and other speakers, and the people who experience the speaker’s work onstage.
  • Building Blocks has to account for travel, customization, preparation, and follow-up as Delivery work, alongside the Grow work of scoping engagements, negotiating contracts, and managing rights.
  • The Authority Loop has to produce more than interesting ideas or useful content. It ultimately has to produce an exceptional talk—and keep improving that talk as it encounters real audiences—because the product itself creates demand for the next sale.
  • Root by Root Planning has to account for event calendars, booking seasons, long sales cycles, travel capacity, and the lag between today’s visibility and a future engagement.

For the Media Brand:

  • Business Design has to answer a deceptively important question: Who is actually paying you? Subscribers, sponsors, advertisers—or some combination of the three?
  • Relationship Rhythms may need to support mass audience acquisition and retention on one side of the business while cultivating a much smaller number of high-value sponsor and partner relationships on the other.
  • Building Blocks has to make room for a relentless editorial operation alongside subscriber management, sponsor fulfillment, renewal campaigns, funnel development, and advertising infrastructure.
  • The Authority Loop produces the product. The ideas, stories, interviews, frameworks, and editorial point of view are what people came to consume in the first place.
  • Root by Root Planning has to balance publishing cadence, audience growth, subscriber conversion and retention, sponsor commitments, and advertising economics—each of which may operate on a different cycle.

Ultimately, “Monetizing an Audience” isn’t a business model.

An audience is an asset that different business models monetize differently.

The Keynoter uses an audience partly to demonstrate authority and proof to increase future speaking demand.

The subscription Media Brand sells its media product to the audience.

The sponsor-supported Media Brand sells access to the audience to another buyer.

The advertising-supported Media Brand monetizes the audience’s attention.

Four experts could each have 50,000 newsletter subscribers and appear to be building essentially the same thing from the outside.

They could actually need completely different sales systems, operating rhythms, assets, metrics, investments, and capabilities.

Your Expertise Path doesn’t dictate everything you need to do. But it changes what each of the Five Foundations needs to do for you.

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